brock The only thing I don't fuck up is my IPA, so I give up on everything else. (there's a pumpkin oatmeal stout in there, i bet it's fucking tasty, btw). Nothing interesting. I'll let you know how it comes out. This one got much better with age. I took the last two bottles to tally for the weekend, and got mucho mucho muchos. Crystal 60L British crystal 50-60L Light malt extract Cascade Tettnanger Cascade